This blog is created to support conversation generated from and about the learning process for MA Professional Practice (MAPP) in the Faculty of Arts and Creative Industries (ACI) at Middlesex University.

Monday 20 February 2017

Discussion...

Dear All
This term Helen and I are going to be posting 'discussion posts' every couple of weeks. These are posts aimed at instigating a discussion in the comments below it. For Module One and Three this is about practicing your writing and also thinking about where you stand on things and what literature informs this. For Module Two it is also instead of Task 2 (Linked-in Discussion- this term we are trying here on our blogs, as it might be easier to get everyone interacting. If you have a discussion you want to start put it on your blog or maybe, link it here in the comments also.)

Looking forward to what this brings in discussion below.

Moving to the language of I

Thinking about what moves us: I like that the word ‘move’ means something emotionally inside as if the ‘mind’ is shifted, and also something to do with our relationship with space as if the body is shifted. I am moved by a picture and remain still, and I move across the studio floor with one idea (to chaînés).

I am wary of playing with English words to make philosophical statements but I feel these uses of the word ‘move’ indicates something about how the mind and body can be positioned as the same thing. What part of ‘I’ moves when I see a painting I love, and what part of ‘I’ moves when I chaînés across the room, and how can I say one ‘I’ is more me than the other?

In Camera Lucida Roland Barthes (1981) discusses how a picture can capture something that moves you. He talks about how a picture can return us to a moment.

‘And the person or thing photographed is the target, the referent, a kind of little simulacrum…which I should like to call the Spectrum of the Photograph, because this word retains… a relation to “spectacle” and adds to it that rather terrible thing which is there in every photograph: the return of the dead.’ (Barthes, 1981, p. 9)

The book is about Barthes search for a photo of his mother who had recently died. Barthes explores a fragility of memory. A fragility that time imposes because the notion of time involves our physically being present with something as if our only relationships were ones in which the sensation of our skin was involved. But we can be moved by an image or a smell or a taste that returns us to a moment we cannot touch. For me that return is real – for some without the ability to touch the remembered ‘thing’ it is not real. Do you believe in one truth or many truths in any given moment? This is something you need to consider because your relationship with truth underpins your stance on reality. You cannot remember past learning, wonder what people think, reflect on your work or do any of the things in this course without deciding at some level on what ‘reality’ is for you.

I feel there are many realities because truth is a ‘response to’, rather than ‘a frame for’ experience. Truth is a rhizome for me with many shoots all connected to each other.

‘In front of the lens, I am at the same time: the one I think I am, the one I want others to think I am, the one the photographer thinks I am, and the one he makes use of to exhibit his art.’ (Barthes, 1981, p. 13)

Barthes suggest in a picture there is the stadium that creates an interest in the picture. It is something that connects with you therefore. Then there is the punctum which pricks you. When I look at a picture of a man standing by his crops in Brazil. I read the picture and connect with a polite shared interest that the photographer has captured of a farmer in Brazil. This is something that is a mix between my own assumptions of what the picture would be off and a small shift in what I expected that the photographer manages to make in me through the angle of the photo or the use of  light perhaps. But then there is the punctum something that enters me deeply – pricks me to the core. This is not a polite shared understanding it is something so personal it collapses time. It might be the angle of the man’s fingers. That I read as an expression of working, being so familiar with my husband’s fingers forming a simular shape when he stands and talks to me about something frustrating that happened at work and my mother’s little finger as she writes, and my own habit of touching the back of my rings when I am talking to a student and feel nervous and somehow this small part of the picture I am looking at brings me to all this and I find a meaning in the man’s fingers that shapes the whole image for me. The picture that moves me.

As I hold the photo and look at the man in the picture where is the physical and where is the mental, where is the truth? And where is the reality? I love these questions. For me they do not have answers because they are about being brave enough to explore the human experience, not the ‘science’ of defining the human experience.

Finding a picture of his dead mother Barthes says:
‘I cannot reproduce the Winter Garden Photograph. It exists only in me. For you , it would be nothing but an indifferent picture, one of the thousand manifestations of the ‘ordinary”; it cannot in any way constitute the visible object of a science; it cannot establish an objectivity, in the positive sense of the term; at most it would interest your stadium; period , clothes photogeny;  but in it for you , no wound.’ (Barthes, 1981, p. 73)

So when we describe a thing, in words, in pictures in movement we inadvertently wonder through moments of punctum for ourselves and others, the wounds of experience. Unaware of when we will penetrate others and unable to avoid it in ourselves. We read into things because to give them meaning we refer to ourselves. So any languages we speak verbal, visual, physical involves layers of translation, layers of truths and realities across the experiences of who we are.

Language is, by nature, fictional’(Barthes, 1981, p. 87)


Barthes, R. (1981). Camera Lucida : Reflections on photography (R. Howard, Trans.). New York: Hill and Wang.

7 comments:

  1. I like the thought of truth being a ‘response’ to experience. I recently read an article about ‘bodily knowledge’ from J. Parviainen where the author notes that knowledge is always self-referential. I believe that truth is, like knowledge, very personal because we constantly refer to ourselves. Truth is influenced by our life, our perception, our interaction with the world. This doesn’t change when it comes to memory. I like to think about memory as a dynamic process rather than something fix. Sometimes I hear a song or perceive a smell and I am instantly thinking of something specific. This ‘something specific’ can change over time. It might then not correspond to the reality of the moment but to the reality of how I perceive it now. I’m not only thinking about it, I am feeling it, I am experiencing it. Different sensations and emotions emerge. Maybe the response this time is different, but still true.

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    1. Yes, I having trying to think of time a circle I am in the center of not a line. Then at the edges are the moments i anticipate and the moments are remember equally having the potential to change and shift as I interact with them.

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  2. I feel this blog post came at jut the right time as I am exploring what 'truth' is. Reading articles on theories and approaches yet I feel I agree with parts of different approaches, I favor a pragmatist approach rather than Cartesian, yet there are ways people have explored each one that do or don't resonate me. This is where it makes sense, truth is personal. Everyone has there own truth and their own reality. Exploring this is daunting but exciting at first I thought it meant to question what I believe but as Adesola has said it's exploration of what you feel to be 'true' and 'real' and more questions are generated from that. I love how Maite has referred to ' something specific can change over time' I think this is so relevant and important when we start to question somebody else's truth, as my own truth is specific to me which may change, others truth and reality is specific to them at that time, without a full understanding we can't question or assume. This sort of touches on the ethics and assumptions within research inquiry as I am actively trying not to assume or question another truth when considering my research inquiry.

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  4. The word"MOVE" has a significant role in my life both professionally and personally. Though here the idea is to express as to what stimulates to you MOVE. I feel, a good piece of MUSIC has the power to raise a man to a spiritual heights..I find there is hardly any person who is not MOVED by the musical sound/tunes. Every Tune or RAGA in Sanskrit has the capacity to produce a certain image or form or a mood..a sensitive mind, trained ear can catch this feeling attain a blissful state or trance. Music and dance have a great affinity between themselves both attempts to create symmetry harmony balance and rhythm..while music presents these elements in auditory field dance presents them in visual field. Thus, for me MUSIC is the one which makes me MOVE!!

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  5. Parimala I think you will appreciate this video as it related to what 'MOVE' is to you! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rnOS0HaWDP0
    Alice

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  6. This is timely for me also, having experienced a recent shift in terms of the mind and comprehension. It felt physical. Something happened as I was made aware of new options and possibilities. It ‘felt’ connected to my heart; a kind of spark; excitement? Realisation? A new punctum?
    I like the example of how we perceive used in the Brazilian farmer photo. Perception and interpretation will come from a punctum of who we are; the truth as it currently stands for us in our current reality. These are surely ever-changing as we ‘explore the human experience’ and seek meaning, whether inadvertently or intentionally.

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